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		<title>By: byteful traveller</title>
		<link>http://byteful.com/blog/2008/07/how-to-fix-washed-out-h264-video/#comment-7141</link>
		<dc:creator>byteful traveller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Jan 2009 20:13:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for sharing, Torley! Next time I release a byteful video, I'll be sure to try out that 3rd-party x264 codec you mention.

And thanks for drawing more attention to this annoying problem. I'm sure, in time, I'll be able to award the Byteful Award. :)

Let me know if you learn anything else, and I'll let you know if I learn anything new, as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for sharing, Torley! Next time I release a byteful video, I&#8217;ll be sure to try out that 3rd-party x264 codec you mention.</p>
<p>And thanks for drawing more attention to this annoying problem. I&#8217;m sure, in time, I&#8217;ll be able to award the Byteful Award. <img src='http://byteful.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Let me know if you learn anything else, and I&#8217;ll let you know if I learn anything new, as well.</p>
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		<title>By: Torley</title>
		<link>http://byteful.com/blog/2008/07/how-to-fix-washed-out-h264-video/#comment-7112</link>
		<dc:creator>Torley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 2009 05:34:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm sorry byteful, I actually pasted the wrong link. I meant:

http://provideocoalition.com/index.php/cmg_blogs/story/brightness_issues_with_h264_quicktime_movies/P0/

It's been frustrating yet encouraging to see multiple threads on this issue. I even asked Neil, the maker of iShowU and Stomp, if he could find a way to fix this. The tag-stripping described in the above link sounds the simplest — but it hasn't worked for me, or perhaps I'm doing it wrong.

I'd be glad to hear if there are any new insights and/or a simpler solution. That being said, thanx for speaking out about this, Byteful! And I hope you get to award that. =]

&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;Torley&#180;s last blog post..&lt;a href="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/Torley/~3/499845456/when-companies-like-stars-align" rel="nofollow"&gt;When companies, like stars, align&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sorry byteful, I actually pasted the wrong link. I meant:</p>
<p><a href="http://provideocoalition.com/index.php/cmg_blogs/story/brightness_issues_with_h264_quicktime_movies/P0/" rel="nofollow">http://provideocoalition.com/index.php/cmg_blogs/story/brightness_issues_with_h264_quicktime_movies/P0/</a></p>
<p>It&#8217;s been frustrating yet encouraging to see multiple threads on this issue. I even asked Neil, the maker of iShowU and Stomp, if he could find a way to fix this. The tag-stripping described in the above link sounds the simplest — but it hasn&#8217;t worked for me, or perhaps I&#8217;m doing it wrong.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d be glad to hear if there are any new insights and/or a simpler solution. That being said, thanx for speaking out about this, Byteful! And I hope you get to award that. =]</p>
<p><abbr><em>Torley&#180;s last blog post..<a href="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/Torley/~3/499845456/when-companies-like-stars-align" rel="nofollow" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview ('/outbound/feeds.feedburner.com');">When companies, like stars, align</a></em></abbr></p>
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		<title>By: byteful traveller</title>
		<link>http://byteful.com/blog/2008/07/how-to-fix-washed-out-h264-video/#comment-6937</link>
		<dc:creator>byteful traveller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2008 07:10:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Torley, thanks for pointing that out, but I mentioned that technique in the 3rd paragraph of this article: "There is a way, which is outlined on the thread, to correct this problem without rendering video again by using alpha transparency, but that only works on MOV files and doesn’t preserve hinting (i.e. the ability for you to start watching a video before its finished downloading)."

However, thanks for pointing out a concise description of that technique! I'm sure many people will find that useful.

Has anyone gotten that technique to work and ALSO preserve hinting? If anyone can figure that out, they win the Byteful Award. That award doesn't exist per se, but I may have to invent it if someone can pull that off.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Torley, thanks for pointing that out, but I mentioned that technique in the 3rd paragraph of this article: &#8220;There is a way, which is outlined on the thread, to correct this problem without rendering video again by using alpha transparency, but that only works on MOV files and doesn’t preserve hinting (i.e. the ability for you to start watching a video before its finished downloading).&#8221;</p>
<p>However, thanks for pointing out a concise description of that technique! I&#8217;m sure many people will find that useful.</p>
<p>Has anyone gotten that technique to work and ALSO preserve hinting? If anyone can figure that out, they win the Byteful Award. That award doesn&#8217;t exist per se, but I may have to invent it if someone can pull that off.</p>
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		<title>By: Torley</title>
		<link>http://byteful.com/blog/2008/07/how-to-fix-washed-out-h264-video/#comment-6892</link>
		<dc:creator>Torley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2008 00:12:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perhaps this is a more effective solution? http://www.videocopilot.net/blog/2008/06/fix-quicktime-gamma-shift/

&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;Torley&#180;s last blog post..&lt;a href="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/Torley/~3/485309971/torleys-weekly-twitter-for-2008-12-14" rel="nofollow"&gt;Torley's weekly Twitter for 2008-12-14&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps this is a more effective solution? <a href="http://www.videocopilot.net/blog/2008/06/fix-quicktime-gamma-shift/" rel="nofollow">http://www.videocopilot.net/blog/2008/06/fix-quicktime-gamma-shift/</a></p>
<p><abbr><em>Torley&#180;s last blog post..<a href="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/Torley/~3/485309971/torleys-weekly-twitter-for-2008-12-14" rel="nofollow" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview ('/outbound/feeds.feedburner.com');">Torley&#8217;s weekly Twitter for 2008-12-14</a></em></abbr></p>
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		<title>By: byteful traveller</title>
		<link>http://byteful.com/blog/2008/07/how-to-fix-washed-out-h264-video/#comment-6656</link>
		<dc:creator>byteful traveller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 20:09:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, Nicholas.

I haven't had much issue with color desaturation. Are you using Compressor or Quicktime Player to make your h.264 files? And what versions are these?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, Nicholas.</p>
<p>I haven&#8217;t had much issue with color desaturation. Are you using Compressor or Quicktime Player to make your h.264 files? And what versions are these?</p>
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		<title>By: Nicholas Taplin</title>
		<link>http://byteful.com/blog/2008/07/how-to-fix-washed-out-h264-video/#comment-6654</link>
		<dc:creator>Nicholas Taplin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 17:28:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My problem with the color change with the H.264 codec is not the increase in brightness.  It's that the colors in your video get completely desaturated.  Although I'm recording lectures now where the color integrity is not paramount, for my personal projects I relish in having lush colors, which seem to be impossible with the H.264 codec, and H.264 is the only usable codec for small file sizes.  I don't think there is any change I could make to the saturation of my video in Final Cut Pro that would make up for what H.264 does to the video.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My problem with the color change with the H.264 codec is not the increase in brightness.  It&#8217;s that the colors in your video get completely desaturated.  Although I&#8217;m recording lectures now where the color integrity is not paramount, for my personal projects I relish in having lush colors, which seem to be impossible with the H.264 codec, and H.264 is the only usable codec for small file sizes.  I don&#8217;t think there is any change I could make to the saturation of my video in Final Cut Pro that would make up for what H.264 does to the video.</p>
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		<title>By: byteful traveller</title>
		<link>http://byteful.com/blog/2008/07/how-to-fix-washed-out-h264-video/#comment-6002</link>
		<dc:creator>byteful traveller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Nov 2008 00:04:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, Manuel!

Handbreak is a great app, but it's designed to convert DVDs into movie files, not to convert movie files into web-ready h.264 files. Different purposes.

I'm not surprised that the video washed out even more. Whenever you encode video, it's better to have less steps. The more times something is reconverted, the more quality you will lose. Try converting the original .avi file to the smaller bitrate instead.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, Manuel!</p>
<p>Handbreak is a great app, but it&#8217;s designed to convert DVDs into movie files, not to convert movie files into web-ready h.264 files. Different purposes.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not surprised that the video washed out even more. Whenever you encode video, it&#8217;s better to have less steps. The more times something is reconverted, the more quality you will lose. Try converting the original .avi file to the smaller bitrate instead.</p>
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		<title>By: Manuel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Manuel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 08:25:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>uuh, awesome,

I have searched like a dumbass for this solution. Really annoying quicktime does this washing out of my movies. Although I have to convert 2 times now, I think it's worth it. 
By the way, do you have infos about handbrake? The videos there look pretty good, not washed out.
Another question: I had converted an avi to mp4, then tried to export the mp4 again to a smaller bitrate for ipod and, surprisingly, the video wash out was done again, means it got even brighter again. After 5 conversions the screen would be white I guess :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>uuh, awesome,</p>
<p>I have searched like a dumbass for this solution. Really annoying quicktime does this washing out of my movies. Although I have to convert 2 times now, I think it&#8217;s worth it.<br />
By the way, do you have infos about handbrake? The videos there look pretty good, not washed out.<br />
Another question: I had converted an avi to mp4, then tried to export the mp4 again to a smaller bitrate for ipod and, surprisingly, the video wash out was done again, means it got even brighter again. After 5 conversions the screen would be white I guess <img src='http://byteful.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: byteful traveller</title>
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		<dc:creator>byteful traveller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Nov 2008 21:14:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for chiming in, cd. I'm familiar with that solution, but it was not an option for me because it requires that the files be inside of a .MOV container and not the pure .mp4 container.

Also, in my experience the brightness reduction is not noticeable in most situations I've run into. For example, does the "Wheel, Jets, &#038; Rails" video look like crap? I'd venture to say no.

Thanks for pointing out this other solution though. It is my hope that people will see the various solutions collected here and find a method that works best for them.

Anyone else have a solution?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for chiming in, cd. I&#8217;m familiar with that solution, but it was not an option for me because it requires that the files be inside of a .MOV container and not the pure .mp4 container.</p>
<p>Also, in my experience the brightness reduction is not noticeable in most situations I&#8217;ve run into. For example, does the &#8220;Wheel, Jets, &#038; Rails&#8221; video look like crap? I&#8217;d venture to say no.</p>
<p>Thanks for pointing out this other solution though. It is my hope that people will see the various solutions collected here and find a method that works best for them.</p>
<p>Anyone else have a solution?</p>
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		<title>By: cd</title>
		<link>http://byteful.com/blog/2008/07/how-to-fix-washed-out-h264-video/#comment-5904</link>
		<dc:creator>cd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Nov 2008 20:55:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your brightness option is crap! If you have a pure white background, it will bring down your white so its not a good solution.


Try this instead: 

1. Open the Quicktime movie
2. in quicktime player, Go to "Window/Show Movie Properties"
3. Select "Video Track", then click the "Visual Settings" tab
	At the bottom left, change the transparency to "Blend" then move the slider to 100
	Change the transparency to "Composition"
4.Close the Movie Properties window, then play or scrub the QT. Your black levels should now look correct
5.Actually, "Save as a self-contained movie."</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your brightness option is crap! If you have a pure white background, it will bring down your white so its not a good solution.</p>
<p>Try this instead: </p>
<p>1. Open the Quicktime movie<br />
2. in quicktime player, Go to &#8220;Window/Show Movie Properties&#8221;<br />
3. Select &#8220;Video Track&#8221;, then click the &#8220;Visual Settings&#8221; tab<br />
	At the bottom left, change the transparency to &#8220;Blend&#8221; then move the slider to 100<br />
	Change the transparency to &#8220;Composition&#8221;<br />
4.Close the Movie Properties window, then play or scrub the QT. Your black levels should now look correct<br />
5.Actually, &#8220;Save as a self-contained movie.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: byteful traveller</title>
		<link>http://byteful.com/blog/2008/07/how-to-fix-washed-out-h264-video/#comment-4739</link>
		<dc:creator>byteful traveller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 19:09:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Keep in mind that the Animation codec is one of the highest-quality codecs that exists, is near-lossless, and produces some of the biggest files. The intermediate codec looses a bit more information than the Animation codec, but it's very fast and efficient so I recommend it for most video situations.

However, I've run a few tests, and I suggest the following:

1. Try Exporting with the Animation codec instead of the Intermediate Codec when doing the brightness adjustment. I got slightly better quality in my final output doing this.

2. The default "export for iphone" settings are rather sloppy and don't provide the highest quality possible on the iPhone. I recommend trying out the H.264 export settings I outlined in the &lt;a href="http://byteful.com/blog/2008/01/how-to-encode-video-for-a-podcast/#settings" rel="nofollow"&gt;How to Encode Video for a Podcast&lt;/a&gt; article. (Scroll down to "Byteful Video Settings") The color blue did not shift when I used those settings.

3. The color setting being applied to the window is most likely Quicktime applying gamma adjustments to your video. This is supposed to happen and there's no way to disable it as far as I know.


If you try out the specific h.264 settings I outlined in the other article, I think you'll be happier with your result. Let me know if you have any other questions. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Keep in mind that the Animation codec is one of the highest-quality codecs that exists, is near-lossless, and produces some of the biggest files. The intermediate codec looses a bit more information than the Animation codec, but it&#8217;s very fast and efficient so I recommend it for most video situations.</p>
<p>However, I&#8217;ve run a few tests, and I suggest the following:</p>
<p>1. Try Exporting with the Animation codec instead of the Intermediate Codec when doing the brightness adjustment. I got slightly better quality in my final output doing this.</p>
<p>2. The default &#8220;export for iphone&#8221; settings are rather sloppy and don&#8217;t provide the highest quality possible on the iPhone. I recommend trying out the H.264 export settings I outlined in the <a href="http://byteful.com/blog/2008/01/how-to-encode-video-for-a-podcast/#settings" rel="nofollow">How to Encode Video for a Podcast</a> article. (Scroll down to &#8220;Byteful Video Settings&#8221;) The color blue did not shift when I used those settings.</p>
<p>3. The color setting being applied to the window is most likely Quicktime applying gamma adjustments to your video. This is supposed to happen and there&#8217;s no way to disable it as far as I know.</p>
<p>If you try out the specific h.264 settings I outlined in the other article, I think you&#8217;ll be happier with your result. Let me know if you have any other questions. <img src='http://byteful.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Luca</title>
		<link>http://byteful.com/blog/2008/07/how-to-fix-washed-out-h264-video/#comment-4736</link>
		<dc:creator>Luca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 18:55:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Despite the clear explanation I still seems I have the problem. I've authored a video with Apple Motion. If I export it with Quicktime Animation codec it looks OK. When I follow your instructions, opening the Animation Codec video in QuicktimePro, exporting first to Apple Intermediate Codec and the brightness at -7, opening the new one and exporting it as h264 for the iPhone, the final result is still washed out.

Just to be clear on the procedure (that I just repeated his morning):
- I created a simple project in Motion with rectangles filled with flat colors (pure red, green, blue, etc.) and a black to white gradient
- I exported with the Animation Codec directly from the app. It looks like the preview in Motion.
- I open the resulting movie file in Quicktime Pro and export it with the Apple Intermediate compression Type and Compressor Preset set to Other, setting the brightness at -7. This creates a temp movie file.
- I open the temp movie file just created and export it with the H264 Codec, Compressor Quality set to Best.
- I open the 3 files and I noticed that:
- the gradient quality has degraded right away in the Intermediate Codecn
- in the final H264 some of the colors have shifted severely (the pure blue is purple now)

FYI I have 2 MacBookPro connected to 2 LCD calibrated monitors. Depending where I move the Quicktime window I see after a second the colors shifting, like a specific color setting is applied to the window.

What am I missing?
Thank you in advance!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Despite the clear explanation I still seems I have the problem. I&#8217;ve authored a video with Apple Motion. If I export it with Quicktime Animation codec it looks OK. When I follow your instructions, opening the Animation Codec video in QuicktimePro, exporting first to Apple Intermediate Codec and the brightness at -7, opening the new one and exporting it as h264 for the iPhone, the final result is still washed out.</p>
<p>Just to be clear on the procedure (that I just repeated his morning):<br />
- I created a simple project in Motion with rectangles filled with flat colors (pure red, green, blue, etc.) and a black to white gradient<br />
- I exported with the Animation Codec directly from the app. It looks like the preview in Motion.<br />
- I open the resulting movie file in Quicktime Pro and export it with the Apple Intermediate compression Type and Compressor Preset set to Other, setting the brightness at -7. This creates a temp movie file.<br />
- I open the temp movie file just created and export it with the H264 Codec, Compressor Quality set to Best.<br />
- I open the 3 files and I noticed that:<br />
- the gradient quality has degraded right away in the Intermediate Codecn<br />
- in the final H264 some of the colors have shifted severely (the pure blue is purple now)</p>
<p>FYI I have 2 MacBookPro connected to 2 LCD calibrated monitors. Depending where I move the Quicktime window I see after a second the colors shifting, like a specific color setting is applied to the window.</p>
<p>What am I missing?<br />
Thank you in advance!</p>
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